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Argo said:
His track record of late suggests it's a sideways move at best.

If we're even remotely serious we'll be getting our scouts at work trying to identify the next Jose, not bring back the original now he's the managerial version of a player who lost his legs.
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Ruben Amorim? 

 
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Poch in. This isna recruitment issue. The players we’ve signed are either too inexperienced or not good enough.  Sacking Poch will do nothing. 
 

Someone name me a replacement who is available and would choose us over the other clubs..I can’t think of one decent option. 

 
JM7 said:
Poch in. This isna recruitment issue. The players we’ve signed are either too inexperienced or not good enough.  Sacking Poch will do nothing. 
 

Someone name me a replacement who is available and would choose us over the other clubs..I can’t think of one decent option. 
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What system are we playing? 

What is the plan? 

Would an elite manager be in a higher position in the table with this team? 

Answer these 3 questions mate because we have regressed since potter with more money spent

 
JM7 said:
Poch in. This isna recruitment issue. The players we’ve signed are either too inexperienced or not good enough.  Sacking Poch will do nothing. 
 

Someone name me a replacement who is available and would choose us over the other clubs..I can’t think of one decent option. 
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That’s the issue there, who?

I just can’t help but question, how have we not started to see some level of improvement in the system or players. Yes we’ve had numerous injuries, but there’s no European football and a small group have had a fair bit of time with him and shown zero improvement. 
 

However, I think achieving European football of any kind will have been his objective and that’s still attainable.

 
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Conte said:
What system are we playing? 

What is the plan? 

Would an elite manager be in a higher position in the table with this team? 

Answer these 3 questions mate because we have regressed since potter with more money spent
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DukesOfHazard said:
That’s the issue there, who?

I just can’t help but question, how have we not started to see some level of improvement in the system or players. Yes we’ve had numerous injuries, but there’s no European football and a small group have had a fair bit of time with him and shown zero improvement. 
 

However, I think achieving European football of any kind will have been his objective and that’s still attainable.
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Here your answers

 
dkw said:
Very very out.
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Who do you want in? I’m genuinely curious who comes in at this moment in time if the decision was to be made, I have no idea.
 

Jose is an emotional choice but is he the right man to work with this young group? I’m struggling to think of a choice right now unless we end up going to Brighton again. 

 
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Sheva said:
Who do you want in? I’m genuinely curious who comes in at this moment in time if the decision was to be made. I have no idea.
 

Jose is an emotional choice but is he the right man to work with this young group? I’m struggling to think of a choice right now unless we end up going to Brighton again. 
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No idea, absolutely not Jose as manager, that wouldn't help this situation at all. Though I would be open to him being involved somehow with a young manager in, we need some power and strength at the club to sort these players out.

 
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Sheva said:
Who do you want in? I’m genuinely curious who comes in at this moment in time if the decision was to be made, I have no idea.
 

Jose is an emotional choice but is he the right man to work with this young group? I’m struggling to think of a choice right now unless we end up going to Brighton again. 
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If Jose could join us immediately on a short term contract, 18 months or something, it would be a great move. Loves the club, most fans still love him, he has the respect of the players, he knows how to organise a team and he brings a winning mentality which we need instilling in these young players.

 
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timetowaste said:
If Jose could join us immediately on a short term contract, 18 months or something, it would be a great move. Loves the club, most fans still love him, he has the respect of the players, he knows how to organise a team and he brings a winning mentality which we need instilling in these young players.
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He left us in 16th place, has won 2/12 head to heads vs us since (one of which incredibly fortunate) and got repeatedly outcoached by Lampard who is pretty universally considered out of his depth at top level management, not to mention he's already took over a Poch side and was a downgrade.

Would be an absolute disaster in every way imagineable.

 
Argo said:
He left us in 16th place, has won 2/12 head to heads vs us since (one of which incredibly fortunate) and got repeatedly outcoached by Lampard who is pretty universally considered out of his depth at top level management, not to mention he's already took over a Poch side and was a downgrade.

Would be an absolute disaster in every way imagineable.
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Spurs is spurs, we saw even with a serial winner like Conte they couldn't do anything. The options we have are incredibly limited, even more limited when considering managers available now, he's an experienced coach that knows what it means to be Chelsea manager, if that sort of mentality can be brought in from the manager to show the board and the players it can only be a good thing.

 
I voted in now because I think like last season, sacking him now will make things worse. However, my original stance was him seeing out his 2 year contract and now I think he should just see out the rest of the season if things don't improve.

 
I also don't agree about this being a recruitment issue. 100 percent think if Caicedo joined Liverpool he would be a world beater atm, Poch doesn't know how to play both him and Enzo to their strengths.

 
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I’m now on gthe fence.

He’s never had more than 8 of his preferred players on the park since the season began. Sometimes he’s been missing half his team I reckon.

Id go as far as Winstanley and Stewart need sacked before Poch. It’s them and not Poch who has given him this squad.

Having said all that it’s embarrassing that he can’t get more out of the players that have been available. The 4-2-3-1 we play also doesn’t suit the players we currently have especially in midfield. 
 

I think he’ll need to win the cup to make it till next season. There have been several performances similar to today this season. It’s  going to happen a few more times at least. 
 

Not having a proper 9 is destroying us. 

 
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