F*ck that, scoucers piled into hillsborough without tickets...caused the police to panic, and a disaster struck, you can't calim that you as liverpool fans are completley lameless. I half the travelling fnas hadn'tarrived without tickets, and then tried to bully their way into the ground, then we would not be having this conversations. As for Heisel, I am not claiming it to be on the same grounds as Hillsborough: however, several Liverpool fans have, in the past, slaimed complet innocence in the events there...saying that it was Chelsa (and, or) millwall fans that casued the riots, and not Liverpool fans. That, my friend is ignorrance. If you are gonne walk about Europe, thinin your team and the fans are this sh*t thenat least be responsible for your fu*king actions!I bet there are a ton of familis in shffield and Turin that hate liverpool too, so what's your excuse!
Scott
Scott, where do you get this info from? that is a genuine question, because this is the ignorance of which i spoke earlier. To beleive something that is bullsh*t is not on its own a bad thing, unless you refuse to educate yourself about it when someone tells you you are wrong. I am now telling you.
The previous year we had played a semi against forest at Hillsborough and thousands of fans turned up without tickets, there were no lives lost. Around that time we were the best team in the country and whenever we had a high profile game like a semi final thousands of reds travelled on the off chance of getting a ticket or getting in. That comes with success. The previous year the police managed and although there were concerns, in 89 when they knew what to expect they had not prepared in any way for it. There were road works on the way to Sheffield causing major tailbacks which resulted in thousands of fans getting to the game late (not rolling out of the pub as that lovable red topped rag would have you beleive) and the police should have ordered the kick off to be delayed, but they when one constable did, his request was denied. Then they made a catastrophic error in opening the gates. Once inside, there were 2 sides of the leppings lane end which were sparsly populated but because of the terrible crowd management the majority of fans pushed into the central pens so that they could see the game as they were already late (understandable instinct)
f**k it, it is clear that you will continue to beleive what you want to beleive. I suggest that you visit
http://www.constrast.org/hillsboroughhttp://www.constrast.org/hillsborough which has much more information than i can provide and if only one of you reading this visits it and has a change of opinion then it is a good thing in my view.
Back to Heysel, unfortunately, and i can only reitterate that which i have posted before. I dont know anyone who beleives it wasnt the fault of liverpool fans, however it was a major f**k up in many other areas which resulted in the deaths of those fans. I dont wish to make excuses so please do not think that i am, but Heysel was never fit to hold the game, and our club made this comment to Uefa a long time prior to the match, it was delapidated. The absense of emergency services prevented the chance of resucitation of the injured but above all else hooligans from liverpool football club caused the problems.
As for people in Sheffield hating us, i dont know, but i would be confused if they did, it was the people of liverpool who died, not the people of sheffield. I know there are many in Turin who do and who will, but our club is constantly attemptin to bridge those gaps and improve our name in that city. I am sure you are aware that English fans have never been particularly welcome in that country, just ask the liverpool fans stabbed and slashed the year before in Rome, or the West Ham fans assaulted this year in Sicily.
