Achraf Hakimi

Little disappointed we didn't get him, one of the best in the world in his position and only 22. But also not the end of the world when we have James and Hudson Odoi did well their last season too. I honestly rather buy Tariq Lamptey back though if i had the choice between Hakimi and Lamptey.
I wouldn't, far too injury phrone and most of his plaudits came from people wanting to use his form as a stick to beat James with as much as anyone else.

I am pretty gutted about this tbh but I'll get over it if a negative is turned into a positive and Livramento is given a shot and/or CHO is given significant game time there, if not we may have to revert to a back four. James and Chilwell simply do not offer enough in the attack for both to start there in games were we need to break bus park teams down (although it's very effective in the big games).

 
I wouldn't, far too injury phrone and most of his plaudits came from people wanting to use his form as a stick to beat James with as much as anyone else.

I am pretty gutted about this tbh but I'll get over it if a negative is turned into a positive and Livramento is given a shot and/or CHO is given significant game time there, if not we may have to revert to a back four. James and Chilwell simply do not offer enough in the attack for both to start there in games were we need to break bus park teams down (although it's very effective in the big games).
Bit harsh to say he is injury prone based on one season. He was getting plaudits for his performances, He was fantastic at the start of the season, the wingback position suits him.

 
Nothing lost really. Maybe the board can now focus on getting someone who doesn't cost the GDP of a small country

 
No need to downplay PSG. They have as many chances to win the CL as we have - with absolute world-class players in the mix. Do people think little of Kimmich or Lewandowski or Neuer because they are playing for one of the biggest one-club leagues in Europe? Paris ain't a shabby town either.

Anyway, I guess PSG will do everything to win the CL right before the WorldCup in Qatar starts and Hakimi is the perfect fit for them. But £80m is crazy money.
Kimmich is bang average in my book.. easy defending when you are bayern.. 

 
The only way we lose Hakimi is if PSG actually bids over 65m euros for him. I don't think he's worth 70m but if PSG thinks that then congratulations.

CHO can do what Hakimi does if given the same gametime in Serie A.

 
The only way we lose Hakimi is if PSG actually bids over 65m euros for him. I don't think he's worth 70m but if PSG thinks that then congratulations.

CHO can do what Hakimi does if given the same gametime in Serie A.
On what I’ve seen cho is less two footed and not as cool in front of goal. Otherwise I agree. Except Hakimi is so quick. 

 
Can he actually hit a good cross? I don’t think hitting the byline and lofting the ball into the box qualifies as a good cross. 4 assists in 41 PL starts supports this, and I don’t think it’s a lack of 20 goal forward issue. Worth remembering he also takes a large chunk of our dead balls. 
 

Personally feel his attacking game needs serious work, and he needs solid competition. 
Yeah, he can. Watch his games under Lampard, or browse the match threads here, and relive the angst as James put in perfect crosses that remained unfinished because we lacked players attacking the ball in the box. The same goes for his time at Wigan. He's also one of the few players that can actually put in a good cross from deep too. I agree he needs competition, and I probably am in the minority here but I maintain his best position will either be at RCB in a back three, or defensive midfield in a back four.

I like Hakimi, he's obviously extremely quick and also he's quite good on the ball. I love the idea of another two-way player, who like Kante, can use their exceptional speed to be present in both attack and defense.  But, his 10 assists in Serie A, when viewed in the context of having a top-class striker in a dominant team in a very defensively poor league - as well as the fact he played as a winger/attacking mid at times - needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He was disappointing at Champions' League level too, with just the one assist and some pretty anonymous performances. 

There's no doubt he is a world-class wing-back, but that's a somewhat niche position. To date he's been merely above-average when played as a winger or fullback in a 4-at-the-back system. At 40-50m he's worth an investment, but at the prices being quoted i'm not so sure, only because we don't really have a forward line who complement his attacking strengths.

 
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Can he actually hit a good cross? I don’t think hitting the byline and lofting the ball into the box qualifies as a good cross. 4 assists in 41 PL starts supports this, and I don’t think it’s a lack of 20 goal forward issue. Worth remembering he also takes a large chunk of our dead balls. 
 

Personally feel his attacking game needs serious work, and he needs solid competition. 
His crossing is one of his big strengths.. infact crossing is the least of his worries going forward.. He can probably be more aggressive going forward in terms of taking his man on.. Despite the existing view i think Reece is not blessed with a lot of pace  and that is the thing that prevents him from becoming a beast with his numbers. 

 
Yeah, he can. Watch his games under Lampard, or browse the match threads here, and relive the angst as James put in perfect crosses that remained unfinished because we lacked players attacking the ball in the box. The same goes for his time at Wigan. He's also one of the few players that can actually put in a good cross from deep too. I agree he needs competition, and I probably am in the minority here but I maintain his best position will either be at RCB in a back three, or defensive midfield in a back four.

I like Hakimi, he's obviously extremely quick and also he's quite good on the ball. I love the idea of another two-way player, who like Kante, can use their exceptional speed to be present in both attack and defense.  But, his 10 assists in Serie A, when viewed in the context of having a top-class striker in a dominant team in a very defensively poor league - as well as the fact he played as a winger/attacking mid at times - needs to be taken with a grain of salt. He was disappointing at Champions' League level too, with just the one assist and some pretty anonymous performances. 

There's no doubt he is a world-class wing-back, but that's a somewhat niche position. To date he's been merely above-average when played as a winger or fullback in a 4-at-the-back system. At 40-50m he's worth an investment, but at the prices being quoted i'm not so sure, only because we don't really have a forward line who complement his attacking strengths.
i couldnt agree more..i will be very glad if we dont sign him.. We have Livramento coming through who is ready to start giving contribution to Azpi and Reece. I would rather see this money invested in a striker and a defensive mid.. 

 
His crossing is one of his big strengths.. infact crossing is the least of his worries going forward.. He can probably be more aggressive going forward in terms of taking his man on.. Despite the existing view i think Reece is not blessed with a lot of pace  and that is the thing that prevents him from becoming a beast with his numbers. 
He's quite quick when he gets going, but he isn't the most explosive, which hurts him when he tries going past people.

I think Hakimi could have been important in terms of a title challenge if we stay with 3 at the back. Because as others have pointed out, our wingbacks aren't great at attacking, so we might struggle breaking down packed defences (again), especially if we can't get a top striker.

 
Kimmich is bang average in my book.. easy defending when you are bayern.. 
Bang average? Bit of an extreme view - he's rather rated highly on his attacking power plus leadership and less because he's good at defending (he's not). Anyway, the point wasn't whether I or you rate Kimmich wc or not but a boatload of people do - at least that's my impression - and I rarely (actually never) hear lots of people say that he'd need to prove himself in another league before being considered an elite player.

But I'm outta here now. No point discussin Neymar, Kimmich or whoever in the Hakimi thread - pity we seem to lose out on him. Hopefully CHO steps his game up considerably to play that attacking RWB we definitely are going to need.

 
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Kimmich is bang average in my book.. easy defending when you are bayern.. 
He is World Class both as a RB & a DM, and would walk into any team on the planet in both positions. Constantly hit double figures in assists as a RB, switched to DM & hitting double figures in assists also.

 
He is World Class both as a RB & a DM, and would walk into any team on the planet in both positions. Constantly hit double figures in assists as a RB, switched to DM & hitting double figures in assists also.
but that was my point when you are Bayern in Bundesliga most players will look good.. every time i have seen him in a german shirt he looked quite average.. and i am not just talking about  the Euros..i believe a world class player should be able to lift up a team..  havent ever heard that about kimmich or seen for that matter.

 
He was disappointing at Champions' League level too, with just the one assist and some pretty anonymous performances. 

There's no doubt he is a world-class wing-back, but that's a somewhat niche position. To date he's been merely above-average when played as a winger or fullback in a 4-at-the-back system. At 40-50m he's worth an investment, but at the prices being quoted i'm not so sure, only because we don't really have a forward line who complement his attacking strengths.
Bit of a dichotomy there, don't you think ?  🙂

 
As a Chelsea and Genk fan. I really hope that Chelsea are considering Maehle if they gave up on Hakimi.  

 
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Bit of a dichotomy there, don't you think ?  🙂
It was just one season and he was coming off COVID so I didn't want to be too harsh!

I'm also a sucker for attacking fullbacks and I think that to be successful over the marathon that is a league campaign, you need to prioritise attacking fullbacks over cloggers. Reece James is no clogger though and is a very capable attacker if given the chance.

 
I'm hearing we backed away due to agent fees and wages. Rightly so I know that's one of our strongest bargaining chips that we can give a good wage but, clearly this kid has his sights set on a big fat check and he's only 22. I can only imagine how much he'll be on at Paris.

 
I'm hearing we backed away due to agent fees and wages. Rightly so I know that's one of our strongest bargaining chips that we can give a good wage but, clearly this kid has his sights set on a big fat check and he's only 22. I can only imagine how much he'll be on at Paris.
And yet we are supposed to believe we will do even more ridiculous agent fees and wages for Haaland lmao.

 
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